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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://devlicio.us/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Brendan Tompkins : ASP.NET, VS</title><link>http://devlicio.us/blogs/brendantompkins/archive/tags/ASP.NET/VS/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: ASP.NET, VS</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP1 (Build: 31106.3070)</generator><item><title>Why are ASP.NET Developers Jumping Ship?</title><link>http://devlicio.us/blogs/brendantompkins/archive/2006/09/15/Why-are-ASP.NET-Developers-Jumping-Ship_3F00_.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:25:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">40756a8b-6212-4073-9d98-6c26781577de:12</guid><dc:creator>Brendan Tompkins</dc:creator><slash:comments>43</slash:comments><description>&lt;p&gt;James Avery talks about &lt;a target="_blank" title="Site: .Avery Blog" href="http://dotavery.com/blog/archive/2006/09/11/20376.aspx" class="bl_itemtitle"&gt;Pete Wright leaving Microsoft&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I have a ton of respect for Pete and look forward to reading about
his new experiences. I know more and more .NET developers who are
playing around with RoR in their spare time, I wonder how many will
convert over the next couple years?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I too wonder how many ASP.NET developers will jump ship to RoR.&amp;nbsp; My interest has definitely been peaked, ever since &lt;a href="http://codebetter.com/blogs/brendan.tompkins/archive/2006/01/18/136721.aspx"&gt;I first saw that great Rails demo&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Other than wondering how many will defect, I also wonder &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt; ASP.NET developers are jumping ship.. Could it be that...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;VS.NET is no fun to use&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our &lt;a href="http://codebetter.com/blogs/brendan.tompkins/archive/2006/03/10/140542.aspx"&gt;IDE is currently in a fairly broken state&lt;/a&gt; (if you use VS 2005 for web development, you know what I&amp;#39;m talking about). I&amp;#39;ve taken to watching lots of &lt;a href="http://videos.google.com"&gt;Google Videos&lt;/a&gt; while I wait for builds, gets, controls to load, etc.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s impossible to get a good web development rhythm going with the IDE currently.&amp;nbsp; Frankly, I think that this has been a major factor.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s not something that&amp;#39;s easy to put your finger on, but after months and months of mild frustration with development, playing with RoR is a lot more fun than playing with a new future MS technology. Perhaps SP1 will fix this?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Everything else currently released by MS is less than thrilling&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m talking about ASP.NET 2.0 and C# 2.0 here. With ASP.NET we&amp;#39;ve been handed &lt;a href="http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2005/08/21/423201.aspx"&gt;a new project model&lt;/a&gt; with debatable &lt;a href="http://http//odetocode.com/Blogs/scott/archive/2005/12/04/2573.aspx"&gt;benefit&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; At least for me and my team, it&amp;#39;s caused more problems than it&amp;#39;s solved. Also, there&amp;#39;s not much new to implement in our day to day coding.&amp;nbsp; Yes, we&amp;#39;ve been given some new controls, but these mostly solve problems that if you&amp;#39;ve been doing ASP.NET development for a while, you&amp;#39;ve already solved (membership, master pages, etc). So at best, a seasoned ASP.NET Developer is faced with the task of ripping out working code and replacing it. Whoohooo. Fun.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only thing I can say that&amp;#39;s been given to me by MS in the last two years that I really use, saves coding time, and gives me warm fuzzies about MS are C# generics.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I know there&amp;#39;s good stuff coming&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, I know there&amp;#39;s good stuff on the horizon.&amp;nbsp; ATLAS, WPF, WCF to name a few.&amp;nbsp; Some very smart people over at &lt;a href="http://www.codebetter.com"&gt;CodeBetter&lt;/a&gt; seem to be very excited about these new things.&amp;nbsp; I for one can wait.&amp;nbsp; But this current state of things is giving me enough time to poke around with things like &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.rubyonrails.org"&gt;RoR&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; If RoR can be compelling and fun enough, it&amp;#39;s going to grab some converts.&amp;nbsp; MS better hurry up and throw us some bones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;-Brendan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;img src="http://devlicio.us/aggbug.aspx?PostID=12" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://devlicio.us/blogs/brendantompkins/archive/tags/ASP.NET/default.aspx">ASP.NET</category><category domain="http://devlicio.us/blogs/brendantompkins/archive/tags/RoR/default.aspx">RoR</category><category domain="http://devlicio.us/blogs/brendantompkins/archive/tags/VS/default.aspx">VS</category></item></channel></rss>