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Building Communities. Driving Communities


It is now about 1.5 year we here in Warsaw are trying to build local .net community. I thought that in such a big city it is going to be quite easy. But I was wrong.
After few meetings it showed up, that just few guys were interested in building community and nobody else. We had a static home page prepared by one of our members and used one of public forums (based on communityserver) to share some info about meetings, etc. But we met, went home and nothing happened.
Unfortunately working with such a small enthusiasm was rather a bad idea. So one of the creators decided to give up and left the group, then we had some meetings with an audience of 5-8 guests, everything went wrong and we were very close to make a decision of closing the group.
But what went wrong? We had a very nice place - MS building with very nice conference room, some gifts for prelegents (books, etc.), really good presenters, some help from MS itself - so, what was wrong?!
Actually I was not too much involved in building this community, although from time to time I suggested some presenters, who drove really good sessions. About a month ago I was called by the last guy driving this community, who said, that if I'm not going to take a part in this group, then he gives up and 'that's all folks'. After some time and few conversations with my family I decided to help in driving this group.

Firstly I decided to change the way we communicate. We had lots of problems with the group's page, so the only way was to left it out and move to other place. Actually the only place I can consider as a 'community incubator' at the moment is 'google groups', ie. groups.google.com. So, we moved from http://wawadotnet.aspweb.cz to http://groups.google.com/group/wg-net. That gave us a big kick.
Secondly, I suggested that we have to meet much more frequent, than we had used to before. As a group we met in the period of 17 months only 9 times... So my suggestion was one meeting every 2 weeks.
Next, we decided to cooperate with Polish SQL Group, and have meetings altogether every two weeks.
Now we discuss and exchange ideas on the group, working together on the plan of meetings, etc. Using the tool (google groups) we have opened the community to the world.
Next suggestion was to change a bit the way we drive the sessions. Not as formal as previously with slideshow, etc.. More work with VS and other tools, involving audience to help presenters...

I'm not sure if it helps. We'll see.

What are your experiences in building and then driving .net communities? Any other ideas?


Posted 09-26-2007 2:26 PM by Michal Grzegorzewski

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Michal B wrote re: Building Communities. Driving Communities
on 09-26-2007 10:02 AM

It looks that in Krakow our group has better start (KGD .NET). For last 2 years we had meeting every month, mainly with PowerPoint/VisualStudio presentations. There were quite big audience. Unfortunately it looks like this form of group activity ended - there is no new presenters.

Anyway it will be difficult to make less formal presentation, audience was quite big - (I think from 30 to 70 persons)

Michal Grzegorzewski wrote re: Building Communities. Driving Communities
on 09-26-2007 10:36 AM

@Michal B: Have you had any meetings after XXVII. meeting, 26. April? Maybe I'm wrong, but don't you think that Joanna simply gave up and no one new wants to drive the group?

Maybe we can organize something like a '.net conference' with other .net groups from Poland?

Of course, everybody is invited to wg.net group (link to the group in the post) - no matter whether you are able to attend our meetings online or live :))

Michal B wrote re: Building Communities. Driving Communities
on 09-26-2007 11:11 AM

I'm sure they not gave up. I know that Tadek organize 2 weeks ago some internal meeting about KGD future. I don't know what they decide. It's true that there were no meetings after XXVII -

KGD.NET has been always suspended during academic holidays :)

nuwanda wrote re: Building Communities. Driving Communities
on 09-26-2007 11:13 AM

@mgrzeg: "...attend our meetings on-line..." - do you mean that you're going to record and share a video from these meetings? Or maybe stream it live ;)? I very much look forward to attending your meetings in such a way.

Michal Grzegorzewski wrote re: Building Communities. Driving Communities
on 09-26-2007 11:42 AM

@nuwanda: actually that suggestion (live stream and share recordings) came from MS's guys :) so, maybe, maybe.... who knows! They've got all the infrastructure we need to do it :)

@Michal B: I hope that was just a break. Disappearing of KGD.NET would be a huge loss for Polish .net communities.

btw. Don't you find it funny, that we are talking about Polish communities on the .us site? :) Actually we have no such a place in Poland.. :(

I'm sure others have their own experiences in building communities and can share some ideas with us...

nuwanda wrote re: Building Communities. Driving Communities
on 09-26-2007 12:10 PM

@mgrzeg: That's very good news! Yeah!

And yes, it's fun to write to you in English ;)

Maybe upcoming ITCore.pl will become such a place or if not we will promote zine.net.pl :D

Michal B wrote re: Building Communities. Driving Communities
on 09-27-2007 3:25 AM

It was a break. Yesterday I got proposal to be presenter on next meeting. I will be talking about TDD.

For me it's funny that I have been subscribing to your blog and I had no idea that you are in Poland - your name is Polish, but does it mean something today :) ?

For last few years I was sure that we don't need any place for Polish bloggers. Who need Polish developers blogs? There is so many English resources. But maybe I was wrong...

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